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Saturday, November 26, 2011

Why Ron Paul can't win.

As I prepare for the hate screed that is about to befall me let me start of by saying, I like Ron Paul. I agree with almost all of his ideas. He is a true patriot and a good person. He is probably the most ideologically pure candidate in the field. If he were to win the primary I would support him in the general. No problem.

But sadly, in the general, he can not win.

Before you get into the "But Stacey he's winning here, he's winning there, He won this poll or that poll" lets remember he was winning ALL the polls 4 years ago. Then election day came and he got about 5%. But lets for a second go with the argument he can win the primary. This person stumbles, that person slips, the field stays divided and Ron Paul keeps his 20% or whatever and wins the first few states. It snow balls and he wins the primary. Not to say it can't happen. It did 4 years ago.

The question is, what happens then? I hate to say it, but it is Obama's dream come true. Why? because Paul is the easiest to beat in a general election. Right now Democrats have left Ron Paul alone. Why? They hope he is the nominee. He will be 77 on election day. They will show that fake eyebrow falling off video a mazillion times and make him out as that crazy, mean, old, neighbor who yells at the kids to get off his lawn. Try to remember what they did to squishy soft McCain and multiply that by 50.

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Not to mention this video where he says he wants to pardon crack and heroin dealers. That issue alone will kill him.

Many mainstream Republicans (moderates and even some more conservative) will not support him. His foreign policy idea of immediate isolationism is just a bridge too far. The moderate "Rockefeller Republicans" will do what they did to Goldwater only about 10 times worse. Sorry but Ron Paul is a less dynamic Goldwater in a more liberal era.

You counter "Anti war Democrats will cross over and vote for him"

No. They won't. The myth of hard core liberal Democrats crossing over in mass is just that. A myth. Obama is their hero. They won't cross over in mass for that one issue. Remember how all the "anti war" protests ended after the election and Obama won? The foreign involvement did not end. They just got their guy in. Heck Obama got us into a third war and the protests still have not started back up. And even if a few would cross over on that issue alone, think what Obama would do if Ron Paul was the nominee and that issue started to get traction. He would speed up our troop withdrawal. Issue dead. If Ron went all "Pull them all out tomorrow" All our generals would come down against him and all the die hard Republican hawks would abandon him. 30% of the Republicans would say he is just too crazy. He would get 35-40% in the election and Obama would win.

Next I am sure you will argue "You are just in party/media lock step, Your a globalist, support the CFR, are Anti gold standard, love big government, love the UN, don't want to audit the fed, etc., etc., etc."

No, not at all.

I just know those issues matter to about 5% of the population. Get off the Internet and go out and ask Joe six pack what the CFR even stands for. I will bet dollars to doughnuts 9 out of 10 don't even know and if you told them "Council on Foreign Relations" their eyes would glass over and they would ask you about how it could effect the Vols on Saturday.

Are those issues important? Yes. Will those issues beat Obama? No.

You might say "The lesser of two evils is still evil" OK, fine I agree some other candidates may not be perfect on all the issues but to effect change you have to win. Sure, some other candidates may only be with our ideals 80 or 85% of the time but Obama is with us 5% of the time, if that. 85% of the time for us may not be perfect, but it is not evil and sure beats fighting a president who is against us 95% of the time.

If Ron Paul does not win the primary, Democrats hope he or his supporters go third party so they can split the vote (see Ross Perot) or if he does not go third party, they will fan the "I will take my ball and go home" sort of pouting, selfish, childishness that gets us nowhere and puts Obama back in power for 4 more years. They know A lot of good (or bad) can be done in 4 years with the wrong president. We have seen that the last few years.

America can't stand 4 more years of fighting against 95% of the issues that come up because we could only accept 100% or nothing every time.

Ron Paul is a great patriot, solid on many issues, but the country is ready for one or two steps to the right. Not five. Lets take the two and work toward the five instead of going backwards for four.

102 comments:

  1. Fortunately your ideas are quickly being dismantled! Unfortunately you are still among those who deny the inevitable. I would rather have you on my side (Ron Paul supporter) but it's ok that you aren't. I'll still vote for Paul in my own attempt to protect you from yourself. Part of being a good American is self responsibility (doing the right thing even when it isn't popular in our mainstream biased media) and the other part of being a good American is helping those who aren't responsible (those who only go with media publicized opinion) and doing so because I choose to help you and not because a government forces me to help you at gun point.
    Dr. Paul will destroy obama in the elections simply because people wanted change when they put obama in but were fooled, only with Paul there is no gimmick... He is solid and offers real change and ultimately freedom.

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  2. Do you think people will be satisfied if we take "two steps" to the right? Many people don't vote because they believe there isn't a dimes difference between one or two steps to the left or to the right.

    You seem to be ignoring or have forgotten just how bad things were under Bush and the Republicans. It was because of only being one or two steps to the right that some of the people who vote turned to the left, hoping it would be better.

    When you consistently have over 40% of the voting population not voting in the Presidential race it should tell you that many don't see enough difference in 2 baby steps, in either direction, to even bother voting.
    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

    Has Gingrich offered a balanced budget proposal? No, and if Gingrich produces a budget that cuts $100-200 Billion, the Country will still have a $1 trillion a year deficit. Owing the Chinese and Saudi's more money because neocons only want to take baby steps still means we will continue our indebtedness to foreign countries. Two steps to the right means we're still marching forward to economic calamity.

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  3. Your peception of Ron Paul Supporters is both wrong and offensive. "get off the internet" like we have not been out there beating the bushes, going door to door, attending every "conservative minded" group meeting we can sharing the message of liberty and Constitutional government that is Ron Paul's? I think perhaps YOU are the one who is shut off from reality. But time will tell. I think you and your NEOCON masters may very well be in for a shock. God Willing America may actually get to experience more true freedom than it ever has in my life time.

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  4. Although I laugh at the "NEOCON masters" comment you are entitled to your pov.

    As you said, time will tell.

    The sen.

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  5. I have Democrat friends that told me that they will vote for Ron Paul in the Primary if I vote against you when you run for office. I agreed because you are exactly what is wrong with Washington. "I agree with everything he says, but he can't win so I'll just play party politics even though I know that what he is proposing is exactly what is needed". If you can't vote for the person who stands on principle and the Constitution rather than the party, then you need to get your crap out of our public office.

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  6. Hoo Boy. I can hear it already. If I don't vote for CFR/Amnesty/Cap-and-trade/Federal Ed Newt, I am voting for Obama.

    "...but to effect change you have to win."

    Yeah, well how are Bailout Bob and Lamar! and VIPR Internet Sales Tax Haslam workin' out for 'ya?

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  7. In other words, the first two paragraphs of your post say, "principles be danged, I want to back a winner." This is exactly what is wrong with the government and politicians in our state and our country.

    I don't always agree with you, but at least I thought you were better than that. Newt is a globalist liberal, and he is just going to keep the country on the track that Bush and Obama have been going down.

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  8. On one hand I must ponder why Campfield is writing about this UNLESS he actually thinks Ron Paul is becoming a serious contender.

    On the other hand I must remember these wise words:

    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”
    ~ John Quincy Adams - 6th US President (1825-29)

    Are we fighting for one battle, or are we fighting a war? What good will it do us to place a Romney where Obama was? Will it slow the decline of America by two or three years? Do we even have that long?

    Sorry, if the Republican party hasn't found more suitable nominees than Ron Paul. Who's fault is that? Maybe it is due to two decades GOP voters putting up with the Lesser of Two Evils.

    Is Stacey telling us to just do it ONE more time? Sounds like my 4 year old asking for just ONE more cookie.

    When will it be time to take a stand and vote our true values?

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  9. If your opponent can discourage you...He wins without a fight! Ron Paul is going to win by a landslide(imo) and all the clever manipulation in the world wont change the fact that enough Americans want real change to make it happen through ballots or if we must, with bullets. I'm giving my hard earned money to the money bombs but if that doesnt work I've always day dreamed of war as horrific as we all know it is. It will only hasten the inevitable, We're all gonna die some day. Look in the mirror...You are going to die one day.

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  10. Anon,

    Would it be correct to say you just sold your vote then?

    My one thing that I disagree with the RP people on is that it is all or nothing. Sometimes you have to be realistic and realize that you cant always get the all and occasionally, some beats none.

    How many of you don't have a car because you will only accept a new Ferrari? None I am sure because you realize that would be crazy.

    You may say "The Ferrari has everything I want and need! It fits me perfectly! That Chevy is no where close to what I want! It is second rate! How could I accept less?"

    We need to get to work in the morning. Both can get us there. Only one is realistic at this time.

    Same with politics.

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  11. last Anonymous,

    You need help. Seriously. Professional help.

    I understand a revolution of thinking but to to dream about killing people who may not agree with your vote or point of view is not only crazy it is un american.

    The Sen.

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  12. I am planning on voting for Paul. I am not the type of Paul supporter who will not vote for any of the other candidates against Obama but I will not vote for Romney.

    I did not vote for McCain. It was easy not to. Understanding the Electoral College, I knew my vote would not matter as McCain would win Tennessee's votes. It was perfect for throwing out a protest vote.

    You had a rapidly left-moving Democratic Party and a Republican Pary that was moving to the left as well economically. Obama winning was the best thing that could have happened to the GOP as McCain would have done many of the missteps that took the GOP and nation further to the left. Such a rapid move to the left was what woke up the country with the TEA Party movement. McCain would have helped that shift to be more slow, but with little resistance.

    Now we are at a point where we can say Obama winning was the best thing that could have happened in the 2008 Presidential elections as it woke up Americans and gave us a grand opportunity to give this country the shift rightward it needs. We are in dire straits economically. Paul is the only one who seems to get this. Others want to mess with this or that and not make the drastic cuts that we need to now.

    Paul's foreign policy is not as bad as many make it to be either. I supported going to war with Iraq. We were angry and took out our aggression on an unfriendly nation. The Iraqis are better off for it yet I am not sure that we are really better off for it. He voted to go into Afghanistan. My vision of Paul foreign policy is not to have troops overseas nor meddle in others foreign affairs, but if attacked we will have a clear understanding of what is to be done and will do it. We won't be in countries rebuilding them so they like us. We will take care of the problem and get out.

    People make big deals about Paul's wanting to end the war on drugs. This doesn't make drugs legal. He wants to let states decide since it isn't specifically enumerated in the Constitution. We on the right love to make that same argument against ObamaCare. We can't make an argument and then add a ton of exceptions or that will tear down our own argument. States can handle themselves.

    My biggest problem with the rest of the field is that they are not willing to make the cuts and the decisions that need to be made. Sometimes we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater because the baby is the problem, the bathwater is just the result.

    Also I am not a fan of politicians constantly changing positions. Romney has reinvented himself, Newt has done it numerous times based on who was promoting the idea, etc. This is due to a lack of conviction. They want government solutions all to often... They are from the government and they are here to help. In the end, the difference between Romney and Newt is I believe Newt will do what he says he will. Romney will continue to make government solutions instead of market solutions.

    Out of all of this, I hope this is a movement from Keynesian economics that influences American politics. Regardless of what you think of Ron Paul, if you look at what he has been saying since the 80s, it has all come true.

    If Ron Paul is not the winner, maybe that still leaves the door open for a Rand Paul selection in 4 or 8 more years... I may even hope for a split convention with a winner coming out who is not in the race (Rand Paul). I will not be voting for Romney, however.

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  13. Ron is right on foreign policy, but the Republican/Democrat fascists want the military industrial complex to continue and grow.
    "Many on the right who endorse the preventive-war mentality of overseas aggression are sincere in their belief that this effort is required to defeat the enemies of liberty. They refuse to see any connection between a policy of perpetual war and the loss of civil liberties at home. They believe their own rhetoric. This deception only facilitates big government, deficits, and the diminishment of individual liberty they say they are fighting to preserve. Tea Party activists will often claim to oppose the system of tax and spend, bailouts and socialism, but to the extent that they uncritically defend U.S. foreign policy, they are supporting all the policies they claim to be against." - Ron Paul

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  14. The biggest lie in politics is that "good people are obligated to vote for the less evil of two candidates"

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  15. Simple retoric for people who know nothing but that they don't like P. Obama...

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  16. "Ron Paul Leads Obama Among Independents New Poll Shows
    Paul only candidate in GOP field to best the President"

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-paul-leads-obama-among-independents-new-poll-shows-2011-11-16

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  17. RON PAUL IS THE ONLY CONSISTENT ONE OF THE BUNCH!!! RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!

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  18. Ron Paul is the only candidate that is even trying to gain the freedom for the people, and not just in the government. He is the only one that is thinking about foreign policy and our rights as a whole.

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  19. Ron will tear Obama up in any debate. All he has to do is hit him with some truth. Do yourself a favor and find out what a blue republican is.

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  20. Its always interesting to see someone be the "peoples decider" in matters such as these. Is it not up to we the people to decide whether the character and nature of any singular statesman is good or bad for ourselves?

    I sincerely feel suggestive thinking, and the predigested opinion puree they whip up for the general American sleepwalker is far more harmful than allowing people to make up their own d*mned minds.

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  21. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has Democratic, Republican, and Independent support. If he wins the GOP nomination, all he has to do is debate Obama and it's over. He's super intelligent and has very bright supporters. Supporters who go out of their way to educate others. He will win. But if for some reason, he's ignored by fraud, his votes will probably go toward Obama winning. He will 'take the votes away from' the GOP contender. So, if you aren't voting for him, you're essentially voting for Obama.

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  22. I think articles like this motivate me more than all of the positive things that have arisen in the media recently. I hope other supporters feel the same.

    At the same time, for Americans to write articles and believe that people cannot think for themselves is somewhat disrespectful to the American people. We aren't clueless, and we have the capacity to think.

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  23. It is precisely this attitude that is ruining our country, it is this attitude that puts unworthy men and women in places of authority that they have no business being in to begin with. I say no to this, and I will vote for Ron Paul if I have to write him in to cast that vote. Period. RON PAUL 2012!!!

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  24. I am a registered Democrat who is voting for Ron Paul (yay for open primary states). I agree with Dr. Paul on his non intervention foreign policy. I agree we need to make some drastic changes with the debt crisis we are in. I agree with most of his policies. I respect him as an honest politician is extremely rare these days. Honestly if Dr. Paul does not get the nomination I will leave the country because I can not stand watching America being ruined by power/money hungry oafs any longer.

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  25. I'm just here to say I disagree with your assessment and you will most likely be proven wrong. With the alternative options being Cain, Gingrich, and Romney... Ron Paul seems like a really attractive candidate! You may not believe it's possible for him to win this year, but don't get in the way of us who believe he can.

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  26. Well, amid the comments made about how Ron Paul will not win: What if he does? Would you really be that surprised?

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  27. The President has been a lost cause for 80 years. The House of Representatives is the key. 218 Ron Pauls and we will have constitutional government.

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  28. First of all, you should know that I'm typing this with my middle finger. Ron Paul is the only choice... all the rest are the same... Dem and Rep 2 sides of the same coin!

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  29. You do realize that separation from England in the 1700's was a hugely un popular idea right? All it takes is a tireless irate minority setting brush fires of freedom in the hearts of men! If the people give up, a revolution is impossible!

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  30. Your post is great for motivating people to do some hardcore preach the Paul. Thanks for that. I salute your realism; it is what upholds the status quo. I though believe four white mice can become four white horses. The world is full of zany fools, who keep building up impossible hopes and it becomes possible. “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” -George Bernard Shaw If you lack greatness you will accept the world with which you are presented... Only the Greats have ever questioned reality only the spectacular have dared to persist in changing the unchangeable. Big J, Ghandi, Buddha changed the unchangeable by Voting Ron Paul we echo their footsteps

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  31. Ron Paul has consistently said what he means and means what he says about the Constitution for 30 years. The words of President Eisenhower and JFK were clear. The Military-Industrial complex tied to the Federal Reserve will and ARE killing this country from it's roots. Our Representative democracy is the greatest form of government the world has ever known. It has gotten the US where it is today.
    I strongly suggest if you are for any other candidate because they are electable you do not understand that it is a corrupt and polluted system that has made them that way. You are also free to MOVE to another country if you do not understand and support Ron Paul

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  32. Never again will I vote for a Bush-esque Republican. If Ron Paul does not win the nomination and refuses to run 3rd party, I will vote libertarian party ticket. The Republicans have lost a generation and had better start thinking about how to get us back. Keep your Romneys and Newts, I won't be fooled again.

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  33. If you support Ron Paul, saying he won't win contradicts your support. Ron Paul is winning, he has gained far more attention than any candidate. The internet is his main asset, and it was proven numerous times this year that the internet can bring people together to overthrow governments.

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  34. I disagree with the negativity, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion. When I think about Ron Paul this quote often comes to mind:

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mohandas Gandhi

    I don't want to say the outcome of the election doesn't matter, because it most definately does. But think about this:

    Ron Paul's ideas have been adopted by an entire generation. I hate to sound cultish, but we will be "Mainstream America" one day. Our children will get their political foundations and ideas from us. Whether or not Dr. Paul is the Republican Candidate or The President of The United States, the ball is rolling. Now it's just a matter of time before we as Americans start making our way back to our humble origins.

    All that being said, I think he'll end up getting the nomination and beating Obama. He has more potential to win swing states than any other republican candidate.

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  35. We'll just see about that.

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  36. "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" Patrick Henry http://www.empowernetwork.com/ashleyneedles/2011/11/28/can-ron-paul-get-elected/
    http://www.empowernetwork.com/ashleyneedles/2011/11/27/heaven-and-politics/

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  37. I'm curious, which candidates are within "our" ideals 80-85% of the time? Which ideals, and which candidates? I pay fairly close attention to the candidates running in the GOP presidential primary, and even on economic and domestic issues, the rest of the field leaves MUCH to be desired. These Keynesian, police state ideas are getting us nowhere fast, and while Republican rhetoric might be a little nicer than Obama's, rest assured that they'll still promote corporatism and failed policies at home *and* abroad.

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  38. How 'bout this, I vote for "Unelectable yet elected over 10 times" Ron Paul and sleep well tonight. You vote for flip-flopping Romneycare Romney, NAFTA Newt, "i-have-0-time-in-any-elected-office-yet-somehow-more-experienced-that Obama" Herman Cain, or Recently Democrat Rick Perry and you can watch your country burn to the ground because you let them win without a fight.

    I will stand with liberty and the troops. You go ahead and stand with corporate interest. Please, we don't need you.

    Support Ron Paul, support the troops. Support the "top tier", support the status quo. I know what side of history I will be on.

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  39. http://www.empowernetwork.com/ashleyneedles/2011/11/28/can-ron-paul-get-elected/

    Not sure why it keeps saying what I am posting is unclean... hmmm

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  40. "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" Patrick Henry

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  41. I will not vote for another war mongering neocon after Bush. Ron Paul or bust.

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  42. If you win the General election with a big government republican, can you really call that winning? . I think you are %100 percent wrong Paul will win almost all of the independent vote and will pull in some Dem votes too.

    RP supporters wont get behind any other candidate. Didn't you learn your lesson the last election cycle? Not nominating Paul probably cost you the election. Its almost like there is no right wing anymore its just all left leaning authoritarian quasi socialists and its getting sickening.

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  43. Giving up before the fight is just cowardice. Even if the odds aren't in your favor you shouldn't just toss out your ideals, take a stand.

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  44. There may be more in this country ready for 5 steps in the right direction than the drowning in debt and federal government assuming more and more jurisdiction that should be given back to the states as was intended by the constitution. Additionally, I and and my entire family are ready for someone in government with a track record of integrity in leadership and decision making not some washy washy politician. We're quite tired of that!

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  45. RON PAUL 2012 OR BUST

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  46. Instantly discredited when the author says Ron Paul's foreign policy is Isolationist. Time for someone to look up the definition of Non-Interventionism.

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  47. Dude pull your head out or your you no what I keep hearing the "If i vote for Ron Im just throwing my vote away", why don't you take a chance and vote for Ron Paul hes the only one who makes sense and he can win. I'm a sign maker and have been selling tons of decals supporting Ron on ebay

    http://stores.ebay.com/Two-day-sale-at-VWBUGNUT/_i.html?_nkw=ron&submit=Search&_sid=3135065

    and by just by the amount I have sold I can tell hes a true contender, if we all nut up and vote for him he will be our next prez

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  48. I was going to say the same thing the last person said....in most polls Paul is the only candidate who has beat Obama in a heads up match. Plus, if this country can't seem that Ron Paul is a true statesman that will save this country then we can all sit back and watch the dollar crash and prepare for the worst.....You right Mr. Campfield, it is all or nothing this time.....like when playing poker when you know you have the best hand at the table you push all in and dare anyone to call you and if someone's brave enough they might win and you might go home, but most of the time you double up and send the other person packing....Ron Paul is the best hand this countries been dealt in a LONG time and I am willing to put all the chips in the middle and dare someone to make that call that they can't beat.....I know he can win and you keep putting his name out there cause the more people hear his name the more likely they are to research him and I hope they do cause his message is contagious and once someone's bitten there ain't no turning back....so keep hating on him I want the whole world to know who Ron Paul is cause soon they'll be calling him Mr. President.

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  49. I have never voted republican before, but if I'm given the choice to vote for ron paul, then I will. Otherwise, I'm not sure who I would vote for and may just go back to voting for obama again. Ron Paul is the only person that I see, that will want to make me vote republican. I would imagine that there are many people that would normally vote obama, but if given the choice between ron paul and obama, they will choose ron paul.

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  50. What Americans need to digest is that we are in need of Ron Paul. I don't agree with everything he says, but I agree on most occasions! I don't agree with any other foreign policy! Newt wants us to give more foreign aid to our "friends" like Pakistan who betrayed us and sold our own secret helicopter to China from the OBL raid, even though we condemed such movement, but they didn't care, even though we pay them 2-5 billion $ yearly! Romney wants us to continue our endless "messing-with-other-peoples-affairs"! We need change! As Mr. Abraham Lincoln once said, "America can only be destroyed from the inside"!
    If we don't get Ron Paul elected, honesely I think its over for us! What most Amerícans don't seems to understand is that history repeats itself! Remember back during Mr Wilson's time? We believed in isolationism, and guess what happened? We emerged into becoming the "greatest country in the world". Everyone wanted to live in America back then! Ron Paul is the best chance we have, we need his foreign policy. Its not perfect, but hey, its the closest to perfect as we can ever get!
    I agree with Ron Paul's policy at about 90%-95%. We need to start making friends instead of building enemies! People need to wake up and realise that the real threat is Russia, and no, people living in caves are not a threat to us at all! Obama is just making us weaker! That's his main aim! We need to mind our own business for gods sake! We need the foreign aid for ourselfs, we can't just keep giving our so called "friends" foreign aid, while we on the other hand can't seem to be able to pay our own debts. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidte with foreign supporters (Non-American supporters)! Wonder why? Its because people are sick and tired of us and our stupid actions! Even Britain, our closest ally, are sick of us! We keep dragging them into illegal wars with us, for no reason!
    Stop wars, stop our foreign aid, mind our own business, have more friends, defend the constitution and keep America secure, especially from the Mexican-American border :)! That's the real America!
    I am awake, are you?
    American people, please wake up! Soon it could be too late to do that! There is hope, and I can see it through Ron Pauls pure eyes! We have hope! Don't lose it!

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  51. Senator Stacy Campfield, have you ever heard the story of David and Goliath? How Saul tried to discourage David not to fight? I'm afraid you have little faith and you could be in Saul's position right now.

    I have been praying for months for God to have the right person be the Republican nominee, and if he wants Ron Paul, he will get it done, and without you or anyone else for that matter.

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  52. What Americans need to digest is that we are in need of Ron Paul. I don't agree with everything he says, but I agree on most occasions! I don't agree with any other foreign policy! Newt wants us to give more foreign aid to our "friends" like Pakistan who betrayed us and sold our own secret helicopter to China from the OBL raid, even though we condemed such movement, but they didn't care, even though we pay them 2-5 billion $ yearly! Romney wants us to continue our endless "messing-with-other-peoples-affairs"! We need change! As Mr. Abraham Lincoln once said, "America can only be destroyed from the inside"!
    If we don't get Ron Paul elected, honesely I think its over for us! What most Amerícans don't seems to understand is that history repeats itself! Remember back during Mr Wilson's time? We believed in isolationism, and guess what happened? We emerged into becoming the "greatest country in the world". Everyone wanted to live in America back then! Ron Paul is the best chance we have, we need his foreign policy. Its not perfect, but hey, its the closest to perfect as we can ever get!
    I agree with Ron Paul's policy at about 90%-95%. We need to start making friends instead of building enemies! People need to wake up and realise that the real threat is Russia, and no, people living in caves are not a threat to us at all! Obama is just making us weaker! That's his main aim! We need to mind our own business for gods sake! We need the foreign aid for ourselfs, we can't just keep giving our so called "friends" foreign aid, while we on the other hand can't seem to be able to pay our own debts. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidte with foreign supporters (Non-American supporters)! Wonder why? Its because people are sick and tired of us and our stupid actions! Even Britain, our closest ally, are sick of us! We keep dragging them into illegal wars with us, for no reason!
    Stop wars, stop our foreign aid, mind our own business, have more friends, defend the constitution and keep America secure, especially from the Mexican-American border :)! That's the real America!
    I am awake, are you?
    American people, please wake up! Soon it could be too late to do that! There is hope, and I can see it through Ron Pauls pure eyes! We have hope! Don't lose it!

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  53. To The Sen:

    I don't think you really understand what is at stake in this election. It is not a matter of how many steps forward or backward we can take. It is wether we will take any steps at all.

    ANY candidate besides Ron Paul will continue maintaining the status quo. No candidate other than Ron Paul will make any substantial changes to economic, foreign, or monetary policies. Democrat or Republican candidates. They really aren't all that different, despite how passionate and different their supporters may be.

    Only one candidate has separated himself from the corrupting influence of mega corporations and the wealthy elite. The choice should be obvious to any educated individual.

    In closing I would like to ask that you refrain from writing any additional articles discouraging potential Ron Paul supporters.

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  54. Obama = Romney = Cain = Newt = Bachmann

    THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Jesus Christ don't you people pay attention? NONE OF THOSE CANDIDATES WILL CHANGE ANYTHING!

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  55. I know who Ron Paul is who the he// are you saying he can't win?

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  56. William Edward KneppNovember 27, 2011 at 11:27 PM

    "Heck Obama got us into a third war" Please do tell.

    I hope you are not referring to the Military engagement authorized by Congress, Operation Enduring Freedom started on October 7th 2001 under the George W Bush administration.

    I have a good feeling you are referring to the Military Intervention in Libya
    which is authorized by United Nations Security Council Resolutions and funded by Congress.

    I hope to see a response. You need to understand the difference in types of engagements before you bunch all military action in to the category of war.

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  57. I know Ron Paul, but who is this Stacy Campfield guy?

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  58. I think the country is finally ready for Ron Paul.

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  59. People please stop saying he cant win! If we declare that he will, it can come to pass. The power of declaration is amazing, but can only happen if we all start declareing that we have the power to change thing in washington. This country was started on a declaration, and it can be restored a the declaration for Ron Paul as president. Stop letting them fool you into beliving there is noting we can do. Stand with me and the millions of Americans declaring Ron Paul 2012!!! Believe it!

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  60. ron paul will not win. the author is right, there are way too many wrongs when it comes to ron paul. obama will ask ron paul about his racist leanings, that long newsletter that went on for at least 20 years that included rants against martin luther king jr. the watts riots and others. i hate to say it, but ron paul has no standing when it comes to obama..obama will walk all over him. this is the main reason the gop does not endorse ron paul. they know ron paul is unreliable he will ron 3 party and if not he will withdraw his support from the next gop.

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  61. Ron Paul can not only get all of the Republican voters(they will vote for anybody BUT Obama) but he can get the Democrats who are disenfranchised with Obama. He stands the best chance to win.

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  62. Perhaps he is the D's dream come true. But they know not what they wish for. Paul will smash Obama in a debate because his points are clear and consistent. Not to mention what a majority of Americans want. imo

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  63. Ron Paul will win; he already has. Since his "loss" in 08, we've seen the emergence of the Tea Party, Rand Paul's win in Kentucky, partial audit of the FED, an awakening of millions of Americans such as myself to what the role of government is, and that the constitution's sole purpose is to restrict the federal government and that it is the law of the land, even if it is being ignored. Most politicians, such as yourself, sway to the wind, and thanks to that the conversation has dramatically changed. Now we are talking about the FED, the deficit, bring our troops home and the role of government. I will vote for Ron Paul, a man who has had the same message for 40 years, and has not swayed to the wind even if it has meant that he had to stand alone, what courage that must take.

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  64. I'm a liberal Democrat. Obama is NOT my hero. I didn't want him to win. I wanted Kucinich. I HAVE SWITCHED SIDES TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARY. The fact that you put words and opinions in our mouths just shows how wrong you are.

    Plus, if you're the same Stacey Campfield who wrote the "Don't Say Gay" bill, you should really get out of politics and find a job more akin to those who obsess over homosexuality.

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  65. It is a shame you're willing to settle. If all the "constitutional, christian, conservatives" started NOW supporting Ron Paul's message, it would be a land slide. I'm just disappointed you think Newt is the better choice.

    Jon

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  66. I will be voting Ron Paul even if I have to write his name in. If all Paul supporters do the same, then yes we have a chance of winning.

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  67. Well, maybe Ron Paul can't win. But if Ron Paul can't win, we might as well give up and leave the country. Basically that is what it means: there is no hope for the country if Ron Paul can't win.

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  68. These are unprecedented times.
    There is global civil unrest.
    The banks are ruining the global economy with derivatives. The sleeping giant is awakening.
    He CAN win!

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  69. Hi Stacy,

    I certainly respect your opinion but I hope you're wrong. We need to think in terms of solving some very critical problems and getting ouy of the left/right distractions and games. If we don't fix some things.. we are headed down the same road as Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal. The United States losing ground on several key fronts rapidly. One of the common threads that many of our probalems stem from is a lack of virtue within government. We need a dose of integrity and none of the other candidates can hold a Candle to Dr. Paul in that regard. Paul also offers the only real budget cuts. He also offers a return to the priniples and ideals that we have forgotten. How should we treat our neighbors? Can we keep spending at this rate indefinitely? Do we respect the great ideals expressed in the constitution that are centered on individual freedom? How long can we sustain all of these wars? Are we just another failing, quasi-socialist country? Will we allow the undermining of our currency to continue. our debt to run up to 140% of GDP (Like other nations)? It really doesn't matter if these issues are important to the media. They are actually real problems and we have to face them and fix them. I am so tired of the nonsense and I am weary of defeatism. I am hoping that the main-stream media game is not the only place to elect our president. I say stay on the internet.. at least the playing field is fair and intelligent people can band together and stand up for virtue. Let's not think about who we think can beat Obama.. Let's consider who has some practical solutions to our pressing issues. I think RP would do wonderfully in a debate with our current president. I would actually love to see that day. He is alert, sharp and awake. Run your eyebrow videos main-streamers, it will not work if Ron Paul has a voice. He has already proven sharper than several of the "younger" candidates. And he actually stays awake during the debates! (no names mentioned but he can remember the 5 departments he'd cut). He runs circles around the other hairdos in the debates. With regard to troop withdrawal, when pressed, Ron Paul will have a balanced approach, as he does with his economic plan. Let's imagine for a moment that we live in a system that, when it is not corrupted, can actually express the will of the people. Let's imagine a world where a decent man can make a great president. Ron Paul would make a superb president, maybe rivalling the greatest we've had, and his moment has come. He predicted our current dilemna with great accuracy. Once more he knows what caused it, and he has a reasonable plan to get us out of it. Yes Ron Paul can be elected. It can and will happen if we drop the gamesmanship and we do not allow aourselves to be herded or defeated before the election starts. If we educate ourselves, and look for a candidate with the integrity, wisdom, and leadership that we need to get us out of this mess, we will be casting our vote for Ron Paul!

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  70. Ron Paul will win...just try and stop him. This Country is waiting for him to become our president. And trust me, if he doesn't get elected...well...let's just hope that isn't even an option. Push the people too far...and they will eventually find themselves in a corner. Continue pushing...and you may find yourself alone, in that corner, with the weight of the country pushing you.

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  71. The American people have settled for the lesser of two evils for too many years. They want real change and their constitutional rights restored, not lies and deceit. Ron Paul actually knows how to fix our economy, his voting record is proof of his loyalty to the American people. There is NO gamble involved, he's the last hope for America. Four more years of wasteful spending and war will bring America to it's knees. The American people are starting to wake up, it had to happen sooner or later. The American people realize this election is not about Republicans and Democrats. It's about saving our country from destruction. I'm involved in phone banking citizens of America regarding our current issues. Many Democrats are crossing over the party line to vote Republican, you would be surprised at the percentage of citizens that will vote Ron Paul. Don't fool yourself into believing that Ron Paul can't win and even more important. Quit trying to convince the citizens of our great nation that Ron Paul can't win. If you look at the numbers on what people believe in reference to what the press and media release as credible information. The press and media have lost the peoples confidence in reporting accurate information. I guess you could say, the cats out of the bag. America will take a bold stand in 2012. Ron Paul for President in 2012...

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  72. I'll repeat what everyone else is saying. This is the exact mentality we DO NOT NEED!!! You elect some idiot like Romney or Gingrich or Cain or Perry and you will get the same old crap, different day. Paul is not establishment and we need to get rid of the establishment. Ridiculous.

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  73. The Sen, as far as I can tell, your "solution" is to vote for what you think is realistically possible instead of what you truly believe in. As RP supporters, I think we all understand that it is unfeasible to expect that we can right all the wrongs of this country in four years, but isn't it better to reach for the stars and maybe only make it to the moon? You represent all the jaded losers in politics who market themselves as "realists". You would rather cut a deal and put a murderer away for 15 years instead of life because there are 100 other cases behind this one, and hey, its "something rather than nothing". Me, I know that the bastard deserves the chair and I will not rest until justice is served.

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  74. The fact that you can write what you did makes this country what it is and the fact that your wrong is what makes this country great

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  75. Man did you step in it. LOL
    I would like to respond by quoting some of the founding fathers and other well known historical figures that RP is well aware of. I believe it is the premiss of these quotes that are the foundation upon which RP stands. Ya ready? K. Here goes;

    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
    Thomas Jefferson

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
    Edmund Burke

    "Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide."
    John Adams

    "Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure."
    "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world."
    Abraham Lincoln

    I could go on but you should get the point as I believe RP does.

    "So long as people 'vote' for who they think will win just so that they can say they picked a winner they are incapable of honest, independent thought and will never win."
    Me

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  76. R.P. has the youth of America, because what he says makes sense, and you admit that it isn't simple stuff that he is talking about. when joe six pack hears him he will overcome his pride and change his mind, that was me...
    and i just sold my vw to another joe sixpack and he readily accepted the two R.P. bumperstickers.
    and once he wins big in Iowa, his voice will resound in the living rooms of all, and democrates will see how they were played/duped by obama

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  77. I have a comment, but was unable to post it on here for whatever reasons. I posted the comment on a thread on facebook, instead.

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  78. I just want a candidate that isn't bought and paid for. You can't believe anything they say you just have to look at who is backing them to see what part of government they want to screw up in their 4 years. Ron Paul is financed by the people so that's whose interest he has at heart. Obama is backed by drug companies, financial institutions and on and on.

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  79. My 92 year old grandmother and my 67 year old mother have both voted for Democrats all of their lives and were big fans of Obama. They have both registered as Republicans so they can vote for Ron Paul in the primary! They both agree that he's the only one that makes sense, has the experience, and can be trusted. They recognize that Dr. Paul has a good heart and know that he is the most honest man they have had the opportunity to vote for in their entire lives.
    The next group I'll mention that have also been big supporters of the Democratic Party are union workers. Many of them are going against their unions and have become Blue Republicans as well.
    Then there are the ex-neocons that I tried to talk sense into back in the Bush/Cheney days. They are tired of the deficit spending, the wars, and they fear the collapse of the dollar.
    Every day more people are recognizing that the only difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is the rhetoric and that the value of the dollar is being destroyed. Everyone seems to want an end to the wars and someone that understands the economy and Ron Paul is their clear choice. Voting for Obama or Romney is a joke! Our greatest threat is our national debt! Ron Paul or downfall! The dollar cannot survive another 4 years of the status quo..

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  80. Wrong. I encourage you to read the following:
    http://thedailybell.com/2957/Anthony-Wile-Nelson-Hultberg-on-the-Debut-of-SPOiLER-His-New-Political-Party-and-How-Ron-Paul-Could-Win-the-Presidency

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  81. Mainstream Republicans and conservatives would support Ron Paul in the general election despise their differences if the choice is Ron Paul or Obama.

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  82. Simply put, I would rather lose voting for freedom than win voting for tyranny. If you are attemping to change my vote, you have failed sir. RON PAUL 2012!!!

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  83. of course he can't win with jerk-a$$es like yourself posting negative drivel like this... how about writing something like "he's the best candidate of the bunch and we should give him MORE support to HELP him win"???? thanks for supporting the status quo, you putz.

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  84. I, like everyone else posting here, think that you are wrong in your assessment of Ron Paul's chances in the general election, but that's relatively unimportant. I could still respect you if we simply viewed the data different and therefore came to different conclusions. That however is not your argument. Your argument is the fallacious pragmatic argument that "the end justifies the means". And that, the fact that when there's really an issue you're just as unprincipled as the worst bleeding-heart liberal or opportunistic special interest party, is why I am glad you are not on the Ron Paul side. I'd rather America crumble than join hands with the likes of you. And unfortunately for you, there are too many like me who will not compromise. And that destroys the chances of any other Republican candidate.

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  85. Ron Paul is the only candidate that is not a fraud. Secondly after Obama has take us forward 3 going back 4-5 isn't going back very far...

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  86. Ron Paul all the way whats wrong with you ? WAKE UP !! These main steam tries to ignore him and keep him outta the light and these wanna be main steam fools. I'm 100% behind Ron Paul - the only chance we have and if he goes 3rd party i will follow him

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  87. I will only vote for Ron Paul! Its him or Obama....hopefully people will get educated and Ron will win by a land slide! :) PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP LISTENING TO MORONS...I MEAN NEOCONS!

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  88. "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."- John Q. Adams

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  89. I was a Democrat, I even voted for Obama, but I'm re registered to vote for Paul. I believe Ron Paul is our only hope. I will not vote for any other republican, but will write in Ron Paul if I need to. The argument the Democrats won't vote for Ron Paul is bull. Wake up like the rest of the nation. Ron Paul 2012!!!

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  90. So what if he's older? He's definietly wiser then those other candidates. I really hate those who say things like "I like most of what he stands for, but..." Do you like EVERYTHING your candidate stands for? What a bunch of wimps. I don't expect Ron Paul to live forever, but if he can get become president he will place those he trust to keep the fire burning for our childrens future long after his legacy. And that should be good enough for all of us

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  91. Comment from Rep Campfield posted above- "My one thing that I disagree with the RP people on is that it is all or nothing. Sometimes you have to be realistic and realize that you cant always get the all and occasionally, some beats none.

    How many of you don't have a car because you will only accept a new Ferrari? None I am sure because you realize that would be crazy.

    You may say "The Ferrari has everything I want and need! It fits me perfectly! That Chevy is no where close to what I want! It is second rate! How could I accept less?"

    We need to get to work in the morning. Both can get us there. Only one is realistic at this time. "

    This is not an accurate comparison. An accurate comparison is this...

    Right now, we have a 1983 Chevette. We have 2 choices we can pick from going forward. A 1984 Chevette, or a 2012 Camry. Now, the odds me be slightly better that we'll win the 84 Chevette than the 2012 Camry. But if we win the 84 Chevette, what have we done? Is it going to be that much better than the '83 we've got now? Voting for Obama/Newt/Romney/any other establishment GOP candidate will get us NOTHING. Gays in the military (or whatever other MINOR GOP issue you want to bring up) won't mean a damn thing when the military is disbanded because all their paychecks bounced.

    Ron Paul offers REAL change. Not the fake change that Fox News tells you Newt offers.

    D.C.

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  92. Ron Paul is the only candidate i will go out and vote for period.

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  93. Hello. I'm sorry to disappoint your desired "hate screed". Instead I will point out the logical fallacies of your blog post. Ron Paul may or may not win. But none of your analysis is even remotely accurate.

    Fallacy 1: Ron Paul is at 5%.

    That's not even remotely true. He's been polling consistently at 10% or better this time. Last time he was at 5%.

    Fallacy 2: Ron Paul "won" all the polls last time but then "fizzled" out.

    That's not even remotely true. Ron Paul won internet polls last time, but he did not do well in the scientific polls. This time he is in a 4 way tie for first place in Iowa in a scientific poll and is comfortably in second in New Hampshire in a scientific poll. He also came a hairs breath from beating Michelle Bachmann in the Ames Iowa straw poll.

    Fallacy 3: Ron Paul's foreign policy is "immediate isolationism" and is outside "mainstream" Republican politics.

    That's false on two counts. First Ron Paul's foreign policy is no more isolationist than George W. Bush's was before being elected. Isolationists don't believe in free trade. Ron Paul believes in trade. In fact he agrees with the position Dick Cheney had with regards to trade with Iran before being elected vice president. Yes, as VP of Halliburton Dick Cheney was trying to trade with Iran. Also many mainstream republicans such as Michael Savage are beginning to realize that the war in Iraq was a mistake and that the war in Afghanistan hasn't gone well and should be over sooner rather than later. Anti-tax guru Grover Norquist is 100% in line with Ron Paul on foreign policy. And most republicans were against the Obama "adventure" into Libya and are concerned about the "Arab spring". All of a sudden when a democrat is in power they have discovered a non-interventionist foreign policy. And in case you didn't get it, non-interventionism is NOT isolationism.

    Fallacy 4: Anti-war democrats won't vote for Ron Paul because they support Obama.

    This is probably the biggest fallacy of your entire post and it's quite short sighted. The fact is that Obama will not face a primary so these democrats have NO REASON TO VOTE FOR OBAMA DURING THE PRIMARY! They have two choices. They can sit at home and do nothing on primary day, or they can go and vote for Ron Paul. The vast majority that I've talked to are willing to consider voting for Paul. Yes this will require follow up as the primaries draw near, but it's not the impossible task you pretend it to be. For one thing many antiwar democrats are VERY disappointed with Obama. A vote for Paul in the primary is a no risk way to express that dissatisfaction and to assure (if Ron Paul wins) that ending the wars will be front and center in the presidential debates.

    In conclusion, I will concede that Ron Paul faces an uphill battle. He has to re-educate republicans who are confused and wrongly think that non-interventionism = isolationism. He will win the independents (a group you completely ignored) but he also needs to make sure they and disgruntled dems in closed primary states register republican soon enough and to make sure that dems realize that since Obama will not face a primary challenger, voting for Ron Paul is the only way not to waste their vote. And he needs to get primary voters to understand our dire economic circumstances. We can no longer afford business as usual. Our foreign policy will change either by choice with Ron Paul or in a few years by force when our economy is so bad that everybody understands we must drastically reduce our spending overall in the foreign policy arena.

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  94. Failed war on drugs, counterfeit money printing causing inflation, predatory lending, and corrupt bailouts and you say that people will vote for Obama again? Are you high? Well in 2012 if Ron Paul gets elected we'll all be.

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  95. Although your arguments hold water...... only in the context of "Let's just give a lil to get along" "Keep the system running."
    What you are not acknowledging is that the system is broke! More people are feeling that way than at any time since the American Revolution.

    They remember voting for the guy with all the slick sounding promises. The guy who LOOKS good, or SOUNDS good, or "He is so well spoken"
    These are recent enough they remember.
    People are tired of choosing the lesser of the 2 evils. (Would you rather me hit you, or kick you? .... I'm tired of this game... how about NEITHER!?!)

    People want to break down the walls of the matrix that limits the context to establishment-friendly choices. Voting a black man in office was part of that frustration. C'mon! 18% of the population is black. 10-20 years ago they thought it never happen. It was a cliche joke of when a black man became President.
    But people were sick of Bush, and the Republicans pulled a fast one with John McCain, who although he had a history of being a party-line crosser started to mimic Bush.
    As for the primaries, only those who really paid attention noticed the shenanigans like : Washington state never finished counting the votes....yet they declared a winner.... Louisiana formed a coalition of anyone-but-Ron-Paul delegates so he couldn't pull off a clear win that the news might have to cover...... that was without Ron Paul sympathizers in party leadership positions, we had no recourse. We had to lie down and take it. 4 years later (2 years after Tea Party upsets!!) There are now more Ron Paul friendly people in leadership roles within the party. Ron Paul is polling strongly in Texas, Illinois, and California, 3 states with heavy delegates. All we need is an early victory like Iowa, New Hampshire, or Nevada to break through the media blackout, and the whole "Is he electable" gets blown out of the water!

    -max_lander@yahoo.com

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  96. Ron Paul as a candidate is one I *would* vote for. However, the most unattractive thing about Ron Paul is his cronies - the PaulBots.

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  97. Ah what the heck... 99 comments are looking rather lonely so I'll make it official for the Sen. He now has his first triple digit post (at least that I can recall). Only Ron Paul supporters could do that, even if some post are the Sen himself. PaulBots? Hardly. Most Paul supporters don't fall orders like minions or robots, quite the opposite.

    The latest survey in Iowa says Stacey's Ron Paul can't win the general contention is wrong. In fact Ron is the only one tied with Obama. Obama is beating the rest. You can't keep telling us he can't win the general and be serious anymore. Eventually you'll see that your mantra is a canard.

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  98. Yes!!!!

    I was wanting to get over 100. As for me, my comments go by...

    The Sen.

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  99. If you like him and agree with him on most things, then you should support him. Anything else is hypocritical.

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