Saturday, February 04, 2012

Komen caves

Susan G Komen has caved to the pro abortion on demand crowd and will continue funding the worlds largest abortion provider. Bad move in many ways. First they called attention to a fact that most people did not know. That they were funding the abortion industry. Bad, but not so bad when they told people they were stopping the funding. In fact I was hearing that funding flooded into Susan G. when they made the announcement.

Then the pro abortion crowd went nuts!! The money is the end all be all to them so they went all frontal attack to force SGK to flip flop and return funding to the abortion provider. Clearly it was not about funding to fight breast cancer. It was about Planned Parenthood getting the money because the money would not evaporate if PP did not get it. It would still go to cancer research, testing and awareness. In fact more would. Just not to that one provider.

In the end, they caved to the pro abort crowd. In the process they angered both the pro aborts, the pro lifers who gave money and now feel cheated and the oblivious who did not know they were funding the abortion provider until this story came out but now do (and they don't like it).

Do I need to provide the link that Rush Limbaugh talked about showing the tie between abortion and breast cancer for anyone?

15 comments:

  1. Yes, Senator, you do need to provide the link. The suggestion that it's so obvious that you don't even need to provide it is a slimy rhetorical move, because you know very well there is no such evidence.

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  2. Your links are a bunch of right wing organizations that promote politics over womens' health.
    Here is information from the National Cancer Institute at the NIH-
    "Breast cancer risk is transiently increased after a term pregnancy. (1)
    Induced abortion is not associated with an increase in breast cancer risk. (1)
    Recognized spontaneous abortion is not associated with an increase in breast cancer risk. (1)"

    See the #1 after each of those conclusions? That means that the statement is well established using dozens of peer reviewed studies.

    "In February 2003, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) convened a workshop of over 100 of the world’s leading experts who study pregnancy and breast cancer risk. Workshop participants reviewed existing population-based, clinical, and animal studies on the relationship between pregnancy and breast cancer risk, including studies of induced and spontaneous abortions. They concluded that having an abortion or miscarriage does not increase a woman’s subsequent risk of developing breast cancer. A summary of their findings can be found in the Summary Report: Early Reproductive Events and Breast Cancer Workshop."
    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/abortion-miscarriage

    Try using some real scientific findings instead of that pablum you try to push off as science.

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  3. When will they ever learn....

    Br'er Rabbit scores again.

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  4. Komen had every right to do what they did – that it was idiotic is a mere externality.

    That some will go overboard in defending women’s reproductive freedom is not exactly shocking – & that it would happen in the wake of several years of vigorously activist state-level legislation whose predicate is restricting abortion access is as predictable as the tides.

    As for smearing Komen’s good name, they’ve already done a sterling job of that all by themselves with this nakedly political decision – & the spotlight of public attention has illuminated just how good their name really is (PROTIP: if you’re going to start a charity with the words “For The Cure” in your name, make sure you get a good lawyer first). Given the choice between donating directly to Sloan-Kettering or John Hopkins (100% to research) or Komen (around 30-40% to actual research or aid), the more ethical choice is obvious.

    Whether a blastocyte, embryo or fetus is a person is a topic of intense controversy & debate. Whether criminalizing abortion winds up crippling & killing women, not so much: the history of bans on abortion is both well-known & sickening to anyone with a functioning conscience.

    What appears to be off the American Right’s radar is that many “Pro-Life” organizations also want to ban all forms of contraception & birth-control, even though access to same is the one proven measure that (unlike banning abortion) actually consistently & substantially reduces abortion rates – which are now rising once again in the Third World as people there living under right-wing regimes find their access to birth-control or prophylaxis being seriously curtailed, while many conservative aid organizations either demand such measures from host governments as a condition of aid, or will provide only abstinence education as a response to their need, even though the track-record of abstinence is abysmal. How the crusaders against abortion reconcile these facts is perhaps a mystery on par with the Higgs Boson by virtue of its sheer intractability.

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    1. and Senator, it would be very helpful if you'd stop with the pro-life euphemisms. I'm pro-choice AND pro-life.

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  5. Of course, the money Komen was giving to Planned Parenthood WAS NOT FOR ABORTION. It was for breast exams to detect breast cancer, which is the disease Komen is allegedly trying to find a cure for. And before someone jumps in with that lie that PP doesn't have mammography equipment, some do, and the ones that don't use the money to pay for a doctor that the patient is referred to.

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  6. At least we are now FAR more aware of the fact that Komen funds Planned "Parenthood." I know many women who will no longer give their donations to Komen.

    KM

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  7. 35 years ago I gave some money to Planned Parenthood. I am sorry I did that, I miss my child.

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    1. May God bless you, Tony. That is why so many of us pro-life activists get out and work as hard as we do. For many young people, at the time, abortion seems like the thing to do. But, time and time again, as we have listened to the testimony of post-abortive mothers and fathers, they say that they deeply regret the decision they made, even many years later. They regret the decision they made for the rest of their lives.

      We do not judge women or couples who have had an abortion, but we do lovingly encourage them to bring their sadness and regret to the Lord Jesus, asking for His forgiveness, as we know He does forgive this sin, just as He forgives other sins.

      Please know that I am praying for you and your wife. Surely you know that you will be with your child in Heaven someday. God will forgive you and the child will forgive you too.

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  8. The religio-ideologue driven witch hunt continues, actors central on the stage now Planned Parenthood and Komen. None of this would have occurred if Planned Parenthood and basic health services were not continually targeted, "investigated," harassed, attacked -- including, yes, very real violent physical attacks up to and including murder -- etc, by partisans, based on their personal if not religious beliefs. Decisions are properly and appropriately made within the bounds of universal rights, and national constitutions [when they align with the former]. When it comes to the final decision it is no one's business what anyone else decides regarding their own pregnancy and parenthood. It is a health care service issue, and those without the ability to pay for such vital concern should be subsidized. If an individual has resources to pay for a significant portion of their basic health care, then by all means they should. But there should also be proper education to enable people to make better decisions for themselves and substantially reduce the need for health care products in the first place. We all have to live in the real world, and at least many of us have to deal with uncomfortable things on a daily basis. This issue is no exception, and no matter how much any one person, organization, or religion, may not like, feel good about, or agree with it, personally or institutionally, there is no moral or ethical justification to violate basic universal norms (including the rights of individuals). Be concerned with the well being of the living and already born -- and stop harassing, stealing, and obstructing other peoples' ability to make their own decision regarding their own pregnancy and potential parenthood.

    And here is how we, or if it is preferred, the United States, historically and presently encodes the violation of basic rights of those who cannot pay. [bars the use of federal funds to pay for abortions].

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13535

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    1. Joseph: While I'll disagree with you even then, with your defintion of this, "universal right", to end 'conceived life' not extending to biological fathers as well as birth mothers, you have no argument.

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  9. First off, there is no pro abortion group. They are pro CHOICE. Will you please keep your ignorant comments to yourself and quit embarrassing our state. Komen did the right thing by providing funding for mammograms. There is no significant link between abortion and breast cancer. If there were, you ignorant SOB, almost all women would have breast cancer because nearly everyone of us has had an abortion be it induced, spontaneous, or chemical. You can kiss your political career goodbye. We may not be able to recall, but we will certainly have you voted out.

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  10. "It would still go to cancer research, testing and awareness. In fact more would. Just not to that one provider."

    Sir did you take English in high school? I'm not even going to touch the content, as I feel that has been sufficiently refuted, but my word your command of the English language is just abysmal.

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  11. The Republican vice-president of Komen who was primarily responsible for the attempt to pull funding from Planned Parenthood has effectively been removed from office.

    Learn from the mistakes of others.

    http://tinyurl.com/7sqbu42

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